¿Será que vamos a alcanzas a los gringos en estos asunticos? Ay yo no sé, pero al parece la farándula local no está dispuesta ni a perder tiempo ni a darle tregua, y para muestra un botón: dos videos porno en menos de una semana. ¿Será esto parte de una estrategia de “presi” contra el imperio y Mr. Danger? Digo, si gracias a su ineficiencia no podemos ganarle en nada bueno…¡ganémosle en la cantidad de porno-videos de famosos! “Misión porno” se podría llamar, y allí si es verdad que Cuba nos serviría para algo, exportando eso que gracias a la miseria en la que los sumió Fidel abunda como arroz blanco allende mares: jineteras. Creo que serían hasta más eficientes que los fulanos “entrenadores deportivos” y los mismos médicos…pero mejor no les sigo dando idea.
Lo cierto es que el domingo, después de tenernos acostumbrados a puro caliche, el ¡Muerde Aquí! de Kapeki se vistió de tubazo y publicó la información: “está circulando un video con tintes pornográficos del otrora Mister Venezuela 2004”. ¡Plof! Más de un@ habrá quedado como Condorito al leerlo, pero adentrándose en la nota aclaran que en dicho video lo único que –presuntamente- se ve es al Francisco Leon, autosatisfaciendo sus necesidades masculinas frente a una web cam.
¿Y eso qué tiene de malo? Investigando un poco, ya que soy lerda en esas lídes me entero que es una nueva modalidad llamada “Cyber Sexo”, destinada principalmente para “aquellos que no pueden obtener con facilidad a una persona para poder hacerlo, y sin embargo acuden a la mente, a la imaginación”, descripción que no pegaría mucho con la de los cotizados Mister Venezuela, pero sí con la de una persona reservada y tímida como lo es el.
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Sin embargo el punto no es ese, ya que el puede hacer lo que le de la gana en privado y eso no es problema de nadie. El punto es que incurre en esa práctica que es tan legítima como pública, y es que según he leído los casos como el suyo son el panem nostrum quotidianum en muchas partes, sin que la justicia haya podido resolver el primero -y miren que hay feos, sobretodo de pedofilia- ya que la persona por voluntad propia es la que se graba. El hecho punible es cuando le roban la cinta a la persona, pero acá se establece una conexión bidireccional donde hay entrada y salida, lo que suceda con esa salida ya se escapa de la ley -y de la intimidad de la persona-.
Lo cierto es que el domingo, después de tenernos acostumbrados a puro caliche, el ¡Muerde Aquí! de Kapeki se vistió de tubazo y publicó la información: “está circulando un video con tintes pornográficos del otrora Mister Venezuela 2004”. ¡Plof! Más de un@ habrá quedado como Condorito al leerlo, pero adentrándose en la nota aclaran que en dicho video lo único que –presuntamente- se ve es al Francisco Leon, autosatisfaciendo sus necesidades masculinas frente a una web cam.
¿Y eso qué tiene de malo? Investigando un poco, ya que soy lerda en esas lídes me entero que es una nueva modalidad llamada “Cyber Sexo”, destinada principalmente para “aquellos que no pueden obtener con facilidad a una persona para poder hacerlo, y sin embargo acuden a la mente, a la imaginación”, descripción que no pegaría mucho con la de los cotizados Mister Venezuela, pero sí con la de una persona reservada y tímida como lo es el.
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Sin embargo el punto no es ese, ya que el puede hacer lo que le de la gana en privado y eso no es problema de nadie. El punto es que incurre en esa práctica que es tan legítima como pública, y es que según he leído los casos como el suyo son el panem nostrum quotidianum en muchas partes, sin que la justicia haya podido resolver el primero -y miren que hay feos, sobretodo de pedofilia- ya que la persona por voluntad propia es la que se graba. El hecho punible es cuando le roban la cinta a la persona, pero acá se establece una conexión bidireccional donde hay entrada y salida, lo que suceda con esa salida ya se escapa de la ley -y de la intimidad de la persona-.
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Dice Francisco que presuntamente era alguien de confianza, y peca de ingenuo nuevamente: Hijito, esta LuzClarita que tiene años viendo los toros desde la barrera te puede decir con propiedad que en ese mundo donde estás metido eso de confianza se limita sólo a la familia…¡y de broma! Más cuando esto sólo implica grabarse solo sin que la persona que está del otro lado se vea afectada.
¿Consecuencias?...Las que vive ahora, donde de manera inevitable va a estar en el ojo del huracán, porque aunque en teoría eso forma parte de su vida personal y de su intimidad, la cual tiene todo el derecho de preservar; en la práctica sabemos que a la gente eso le causa “morbo” y hacen lo imposible por verlo, saltándose cualquier restricción ética o moral.
El otro porno video es el del “simpático” –es una ironía, porsia- Luis Olavarrieta. Su caso es diametralmente opuesto al del Leon ya que todos sabemos de sobra cómo es el personaje, y aparentemente a él no lo agarraron desprevenido en su buena fe, porque según todas las versiones aquello fue hecho con “premeditación y alevosía” para decirlo en términos leguleyos. Es decir el mismo se grabó, y de una forma un poco más cochina según la no menos cochina descripción de TV Chismes. Lo que no se sabe es si el mismo lo publicó o una “mano peluda” se lo sustrajo.
¿Consecuencias?...Las que vive ahora, donde de manera inevitable va a estar en el ojo del huracán, porque aunque en teoría eso forma parte de su vida personal y de su intimidad, la cual tiene todo el derecho de preservar; en la práctica sabemos que a la gente eso le causa “morbo” y hacen lo imposible por verlo, saltándose cualquier restricción ética o moral.
El otro porno video es el del “simpático” –es una ironía, porsia- Luis Olavarrieta. Su caso es diametralmente opuesto al del Leon ya que todos sabemos de sobra cómo es el personaje, y aparentemente a él no lo agarraron desprevenido en su buena fe, porque según todas las versiones aquello fue hecho con “premeditación y alevosía” para decirlo en términos leguleyos. Es decir el mismo se grabó, y de una forma un poco más cochina según la no menos cochina descripción de TV Chismes. Lo que no se sabe es si el mismo lo publicó o una “mano peluda” se lo sustrajo.
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A la final, triste pero cierto, tanto el que se graba o el que “en su inocencia” se deja grabar, corren el mismo riesgo: que todo salga a la luz pública; corriendo la misma suerte: el escarnio público. No debería ser, pero así es y ha sido desde que el mundo es mundo, por lo que asumir la conducta de chiiito que eso es un tabú y de eso mejor no se habla, tampoco va. La prensa puede llegar a ser inclemente, pero es ridículo achacarle toda la culpa. El que no quiera ser una porno celebridad que no se grabe, que no se deje grabar, y que si por casualidad lo hace queme la cinta ahí mismo…a menos que se quiera hacer publicidad, hipótesis que tampoco se descarta.
Creo que eso es todo lo que puedo decir del tema, no sin antes advertirles que por allí hay fuertes rumores según los cuales dentro de poco saldrían otros dos videos de un modelo y un periodista venezolano, y otro de Francisco León…¡Ay Dios mío!...Espero confirmación pero no se por qué ya algo está oliendo mal –muy mal realmente- en Dinamarca…¿Casualidad?...¡Muerde Aquí!
A la final, triste pero cierto, tanto el que se graba o el que “en su inocencia” se deja grabar, corren el mismo riesgo: que todo salga a la luz pública; corriendo la misma suerte: el escarnio público. No debería ser, pero así es y ha sido desde que el mundo es mundo, por lo que asumir la conducta de chiiito que eso es un tabú y de eso mejor no se habla, tampoco va. La prensa puede llegar a ser inclemente, pero es ridículo achacarle toda la culpa. El que no quiera ser una porno celebridad que no se grabe, que no se deje grabar, y que si por casualidad lo hace queme la cinta ahí mismo…a menos que se quiera hacer publicidad, hipótesis que tampoco se descarta.
Creo que eso es todo lo que puedo decir del tema, no sin antes advertirles que por allí hay fuertes rumores según los cuales dentro de poco saldrían otros dos videos de un modelo y un periodista venezolano, y otro de Francisco León…¡Ay Dios mío!...Espero confirmación pero no se por qué ya algo está oliendo mal –muy mal realmente- en Dinamarca…¿Casualidad?...¡Muerde Aquí!
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 422 Newer› Newest»CLARITA NO SON 2, SON TRES VIDEOS LOS QUE HAY PUES TAMBIEN HAY UNO DE PEDRO LUIS FLORES, Y NO ES MENTIRA ES VERDAD, QUE LASTIMA POR ELLOS ESO ES PA QUE APRENDAN QUE EL INTERNET TIENE SUS COSAS MUY MALAS Y QUE LA TECNOLOGIA DA PA TODO, Y QUE ADEMAS NO SE PUEDE CONFIAR EN NADIE Y MENOS EN ALGUIEN QUE CONOCEMOS POR "INTERNET".
LUIS CUMANA
donde veo el video en que pagina salen xfa
Luz no entendi lo de Dinamarca... alguna clave que dejas colar?
¿Cómo es la cosaaaaaaaaa.... de Pedro Luis Flores también?...
Ay Lucecita, no te digo yo, esos muchachones en vez de estar en la intimidad haciendo lo que quieran..., que es esoooo de estarselo mostrando a la internet, o ciber sexo o como se llame la cosa esa....
Fin de mundo... no es que sea antiguitaaaaa... pero es mejor que hagan lo que les plazca, con quien les plazca y con lo que les plazca en privado...
Aunque tu tambien tienes razón... uyyyy no te falla el olfato, no será que a estos carricitos los agarraron en su buena fe.. bueh... por decir algo así... y le quieren hacer una guerrita sucia... no sé... digo yo... ¡tu me diras Lucecita...!.
Saluditos
Aragua
Este temita ya me tiene hastiada e indignada. No comparto que la gente se grabe o se tome fotos por las mismas razones que expones, Comadre, pero cada cabeza es un mundo y, al menos en el caso de Francisco, declaro hoy en la prensa seria que esa era la forma de mantener intimidad en una relacion a distancia.
En los otros casos, digo que ese es problema de ELLOS. Son seres humanos ademas de ser personajes publicos y lo que hagan en su vida privada DEBERIA MANTENERSE EN PRIVADO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me parece de MUY MAL GUSTO Y BAJO que la amarillista revista TV Chismes publique las fotos supuestamente "extraidas" de los videos (lo cual NO ME CONSTA, ya que por una parte salen las fotos de la cara de los personajes en cuestion, y por otra, las del acto sexual), a razon de vender mas ejemplares. ABSOLUTAMENTE REPROBABLE Y REPROCHABLE, JENNIFER SUAREZ Y SU COMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dejenlos en paz!!!!!!!!!!! Son PERSONAS antes que artistas/periodistas y, como tal, merecen RESPETO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saludos...
*¡Ay Dios mío Luis!...Buehhh, ese es el rumor que se corre, yo la verdad aún espero confirmación, peeeero creo que la cosa como que es cierta. De verdad que es lamentable que figuras de su talla vean no voy a decir manchado, enlodado pues, su nombre por casos así...¡La ingenuidad se paga caro!...Y no te quito razón, el internet pa lo que es...¡SALUDOS!
*¡A mi que me registren anónimo1!...Yo ni los he visto ni los pienso ver, así que no te puedo decir, es más -sin sonar grosera- aunque lo supiera no lo diría...por aquello de no contribuir con eso...de todos modos...¡SALUDOS!
*Bueno anónimo2, esa es una frase de Hamlet, y la usé porque efectivamente no se por qué pero mi "instinto" me lleva a pensar que hay algo "grande" detrás de todo esto...No tengo pruebas, no tengo nada, voy a ver que encuentro, y ya de eso hablaré...¡SALUDOS!
*Ay Aragüa eso dícen y parece que es verdad...Yo también más chapada a la antigua digo que la internet para lo que es, y la intimidad para lo que es...peeero con estas "modernidades" y "nuevas eras" cada cabeza es un mundo y la vive como quiere...Y ya te diré porque al parecer si hay algo detrás de todo eso...veré que averiguo...¡SALUDOS!
*Nooo coma lo de TV Chismes ya es una cosa demasiado fuerte...¿Qué es eso?...No sólo las imágenes sino la descripción que han hecho de los videos, es que ni la Chepa Candela pues...¿Y todo para qué?...Porque el primer numero de la revista lo que tuvo fue una circulación clandestina y nadie sabe donde la vendieron...¿Será que preparan un porno-número?...Hmmm...El problema es que después que aquello sale ya no se puede contener...pero le ratifico que "algo huele a podrido en Dinamarca"...y yo voy a tratar de ver que es...¡SALUDOS!
Lo de Francisco me sorprende, lo de Olavarrieta me molesta, pero ya lo de Don Pedro Luis fue un duro golpe, en serio, un ser humano tan respetable que haya vapuleado intencionalmente o no, su carrera, esos principios que a diario muestra, me sorprende...realmente estoy anonadada!!...
Y sé que muchos quisieramos decir que TV chismes miente, que es amarillista, que es un asco pues en realidad no nos queremos creer que nuestro colega Pedro se viera envuelto en un huracán así, pero no, yo vi el video de Luis y de Pedro(lo vi a través del programa ARES) y sí, desgraciadamente son verídicos...permítanme que defienda a la revista pero, ellos sencillamente están haciendo su labor, no fueron ellos quienes sacaron a la luz pública los videos, en dado caso tildemos de sensacionalistas también al "Diario 2001", la columna "Muerde Aquí" quien fue la primera en poner sobre el tapete este temita; y a unos cuantos blogs (entre ellos el tuyo y el mío) por dar a conocer la noticia y por tocar este bochornoso caso...
De verdad me indigna mucho que Olavarrieta no haya salido a dar la cara y enfrentar la situación, al igual que Pedro Luis,quien hasta este momento en su programa "Buenas Noches" no ha hecho comentario alguno acerca de esta dificil situación...contrario a la gallardía que Francisco León nos mostró cuando salió y dijo lo que pensaba...eso es tener bastante temple y coraje.
Gracias Luz, saludos a la igualada y un gran abrazo...se les quiere.
*jejeje bueno ANNABELLLL 2001 y sensasionalismo son -mejor dicho: fueron- sinónimos, pero ellos apenas tocaron el tema hoy. La primicia se la lleva ¡Muerde Aquí!, y según leí por allí Kapeki habría dado la noticia en Pantalleros de TVS el viernes por la noche...De todos modos, lo que le critico a TV Chismes es la forma en la que dio la noticia y no que ha la hayan dado. Los titulares, los textos -dígame el de Olavarrieta- y las fotos, eso deja mucho que desear...Con respecto al blog, pues ya después que aquello había estallado creo que era menester comentarlo, no se, por ese lado no me siento mal...Pero vaya que la de Pedro Luis es una noticia que pega..¡y duro! Me gustó esa frase que lo de Fco sorprende y lo de Luis molesta...nunca tan de acuerdo...Por cierto, ¿cual es la dirección de tu blog?...¡SALUDOS!
Acabo de enterarme de un supuesto video porno de Pedro luis Flores, el periodista de Globovision, en mi pàgina tienen los detalles de donde fue tomado, ya que es bien delicado
pueden leer la información en www.sucedenvenezuela.com
saludos
Es lamentable que Pedro Luis Flores dejara su imagen respetable a un lado para mostrarse en este tipo de cosas.
Lo más lamentable es que el mismo no cuida su imagen cuando va a sitios gays como "La Cotorra" en el Centro Comercial Paseo Las Mercedes donde va sin mayor complicación, y aunque el se muestra muy serio de actitud el que si se vuelve loca desatada es el de "Plomovisión" (que no recuerdo su nombre en este momento). Los dos siempre van a ese sitio con frecuencia.
Mal Pedro Luis, ese día me enteré que eres Gay pero no cuidarte fue una gran metida de pata.
En cuanto al fulano de "Ají Picante " es un idiota tan patetico que es probable que él mismo lo haya puesto para "levantar su carrera" porque a él solo le cae bien a su madre y porque lo pario.
Estos son los riesgos de querer ser famoso, caes en el circo del escarnio publico y debes calartelo porque eres figura publica, si no quieres que nadie sepa de ti entonces no pienses en meterte en el negocio del espectaculo cuando tienes "rabo de paja".
Una pregunta, Comadre... QUE PASO CON TV CHISMES?????????????? La pagina ya no abre... Sera que una mano peluda se encargo se sacarlos de circulacion por inmorales??? (es que las fotos estaban DEMASIADO fuertes... SE PASARON!!!) Alguien sabe??? Huele MUY putrefacto por aquellos lares...
Sabes que??? Si fuese asi, no me sorprende... Hicieron como "Chacumbele": Tanto veneno echan que terminan muriendo ahogados en sus propias toxinas... Hasta el "National Enquirer" trata esta clase de temas con mas delicadeza (aunque tambien se pasan de amarillistas) Definitivamente, del Karma no se salva nadie!!!
Saludos a TODOS, especialmente a ti, Comadre, y a la amiguis, Anabell!!!!!
hola luz clarita! se sabe quien es la persona que grabo a francisco leon? fue un hombre o una mujer? y donde puedo leer las declaraciones que ha hecho francisco leon sobre ese acontecimiento. Gracias
Hola Carolina. No soy Luz Clarita, pero esto fue lo que salio en "Ultimas Noticias" al respecto:
León confirma desnudo frente a web cam
No considera que haya hecho algo malo y habla de extorsión
JOSÉ GABRIEL DÍAZ
Caracas. Francisco León no es, ni se siente, menos que nadie.
Luego de ser víctima de una violación a la privacidad, el joven animador y modelo habla del video que protagoniza y en el que se muestra desnudo frente a una cámara web.
"Ocurrió hace dos años", relata. "Mantenía una relación a distancia y ese fue el mecanismo que utilizamos para intimar. Pero no me arrepiento de haberlo hecho".
Impresionado por la polvareda levantada en torno al corto, el joven prefiere acallar la ola de rumores y falsedades. "Obviamente, muchos iban a querer beneficiarse con esto, comenzando por la persona que lo tenía y que me extorsionó pidiéndome una cifra altísima de dinero a cambio de no hacerlo público. Te hablo a ti porque eres serio y responsable", enfatiza vía telefónica.
Traicionado y señalado, León dice que nunca creyó que ese juego tendría tal desenlace. "No lo he hecho más ni lo volveré a hacer. Aunque si algo tiene de bueno es que ese es el sexo más seguro que existe, porque el contacto físico se reduce a la vista".
Un poco más relajado, el ex Míster Venezuela comenta que ha seguido de cerca algunos foros creados sobre la polémica. "Las mujeres piden la dirección exacta para verlo y algunos hombres exponen que no es nada del otro mundo. Yo preferí asumirlo y dar la cara en lugar de esconderme y negarlo. Fue un acto natural y no hice nada anormal", indica.
Por lo pronto, el joven piensa seguir enfrentándose a nuevos proyectos.
"Así es la envidia. Mucha gente busca la manera de ponerte trabas en el camino. Si me caigo, me levanto y sigo adelante.
De hecho, ya entré al estudio para grabar mi CD".
Saludos...
Pedro Luis Flores y el de PlomoVision son rolo de locas y eso lo sabe TUTTI EL MUNDI, asi como todos saben que Ravell se agarra a Rebeca Moreno, eso es de dominio público en las oficinas de Globovision y tu lo debes saber Luz Clarita, todo el mundo que tiene medio contacto con medios sabe eso.
El video de pedro luis esta en xtube.com, metanse alli y en el buscador pongan pedro luis flores y es el unico video que sale.
De verdad que esto da mucho de que hablar!!! Pero soy de las personas que piensa que en muchos de estos casos algunos artistas hacen esto por simplemente PUBLICIDAD,PUBLICIDAD Y NADA MAS QUE PUBLICIDAD...(OJO NO DIGO QUE ESTE SEA EL CASO DE FRANCIASCO LEON) lo digo en el caso de Luis Olavarrieta entre otros...
No puede ser que cada vez que un artista se graba teniendo sexo , casualmente el video salga a la luz publica... (eso esta como raro!!)
Almenos Francisco Leon dio la cara y explico los motivos !! De verdad creo que ante todo por el siemple hecho de ser un ser humano merece RESPETO!!
Y pues si!!, yo creo que algo raro paso con la pagina de TV CHISMES, porque pues sale (The page cannot be found)... para mi esto tiene que ver mucho con las FUERTES IMAGENES QUE DICHA PAGINA PUBLICO...
Saludos para todos!!!
Este tipo de cosas lo que hace es desprestigiar la tv.
El que crea que esto es publicidad esta bien pelao..Ya esos personajes uno no los ve con los mismos ojos.
Es como ver una pelicula porno y luego ver al protagonista dando unas noticias, nada que ver!!!
Me parece medio chimbo que se pongan en una de que "Pedro Luis se la pasa en no se donde, es Gay". Si es Gay ese es su peo, todo Globovision sabe que él es gay y él no lo esconde, tampoco tiene porque decirlo en cámara, él es un ser humano normal, como cualquier de nosotros.
Lo de los videos me parece asqueroso que se viole la privacidad de alguien. ¿Acaso sale Pedro Luis haciendo algo excesivamente anormal?, supongo que no. No los he visto pero conosco a Pedro Luis y se que es un carajo full trabajador y respetuoso incapaz de calumniar a nadie y por eso me parece asombroso que le hagan esto a él.
El resto de los chamos que han salido a la palestra pues que diablos, todos nos hemos masturbado, hemos zingado y hemos morboseado y hasta ahora no veo el escándalo por eso. Ellos son seres humanos.
Vamos a estar claro, se sabe que es algo natural y necesario en todo ser humano, pero es algo intimo muy privado.Tu no llamas a tus padres para que lo vean, o a tus amigos, ni se lo andas diciendo a todo el mundo.No se censura la condición sexual de nadie sólo que se debe ser muy reservado cuando se es figura publica.
Lo mismo digo, Anonimo!!!!!!!!!! Cualquiera cae que NINGUNO ha hecho NADA de eso... Si, Luis!!!!!!!!! Quien este libre de pecado, que lance la primera piedra.
Lo mismo que describes a Pedro Luis, puedo decir de Francisco: un tipo EXTRAORDINARIO, super profesional, trabajador, excelente persona, talentosisimo, buen amigo y companero de labores, ademas de super sencillo, guapo, y, aunque no lo crean, super timido.
Me indigna que hayan creado todo un circo sobre esto. Ni que hubiesen hecho una pelicula porno de verdad-verdad. Les violaron su PRIVACIDAD y fueron victimas hasta de extorsion, y ahora enfrentan la humillacion publica, simplemente porque ciertos fablistanes hacen su agosto con los tropiezos de otros.
Para mi, siguen siendo los mismos profesionales de siempre. TQM, Francisco!!!!! Sigue adelante, amigo!!!!! EXITO!!!!! TE LO MERECES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saludos...
¡Santo Dios Bendito!...Vaya si hay comentarios en este caso. A las 9 vengo a responderlos...no sin antes agradecerles a los de Noticias24 que tan gentilmente reseñaron en su tan leida web este post...¡GRACIAS!...Bueno, a las 9 regreso a responder...¡SALUDOS!
*Pues sí sucedenvenezuela resultó ser cierto. Gracias por los links de tu blog, lo he visitado y le has hecho un buen seguimiento al caso...¡SALUDOS!
*Bueno anónimo1, ni desmiento ni confirmo lo que dices, en todo caso la crítica no iría dirigida a la orientación sexual que -supuestamente- tendría. La crítica es que siendo figura pública se preste para eso y no cuide su imágen, sabiendo que es eso de lo que depende. No digo que se encierre y no salga, pero lo que lo haga con la conciencia de que aquello puede traer repercusiones...¡SALUDOS!
*Bueno coma, al parecer alguien les jugó una muy mala pasada. No estoy de acuerdo con la censura ni con sacar por la fuerza del aire a una página web, pero tampoco estoy de acuerdo con lo que hicieron. Se dan la cachaza de decir ahora un pocote de barbaridades, y la verdad sea dicha: no los sacaron del aire por profesionalismo, sino por la falta de...¡SALUDOS!
*Que conste en acta que ese comentario no lo suprimí yo, me imagino que sería el mismo autor del comentario...¡SALUDOS!
*Ya la coma te respondio carol, carol, carolina...La persona era su pareja, y las declaraciones allá abajo...¡SALUDOS!
*¡A mi que me revisen anónimo2! Yo veo mucha mala intención en ese tipo de rumores, así que ni pío hasta que tenerlos confirmados o desmentidos, mira que "guerras sucias" hay en todos lados...¡ más en los canales de TV!...¡SALUDOS!
*Muy válida esa hipótesis andre, puede que muchos se quieran hacer ese tipo de publicidad. Extraña de verdad que todo haya salido tan pero tan junto...ya le meteremos la lupa...¡SALUDOS!
*No tanto a la TV anónimo3 sino a los protagonistas y habría que tener cuidado con el verbo "desprestigiar". Lo que estaban haciendo es muy normal en estos tiempos, lo que pasa es que es algo muy intimo que sale a la luz pública...No se cual es la palabra, pero desprestigiar no..jeje...¡SALUDOS!
*Exacto anónimo4, la supuesta orientación de el no deberían por qué influir en su trabajo. Y no te quito razón, es lamentable que a personas como ellos les pasen esas cosas, por eso es que deben tener mas cuidado...¡SALUDOS!
*Pensamos, si no igual, muy aprecido anónimo5...¡SALUDOS!
*Exacto coma, eso no debería influir en sus actividades profesionales...Muchos lo hacen y no se sabe nada, otros lo hacen y lamentablemente se sabe...¿La diferencia entre ambos?...Ninguna...Un poco de mala suerte...¡SALUDOS!
Si alguien graba un video debe saber que algien podría verlo. Sin embargo, creo que es una falta de respeto hacia la persona el hacer circular ese tipo de material. De igual manera, si Pedro Luis o cualquier persona es gay ¿cual es el problema? ¿cual es el delito?
Lamento mucho que tu blog tenga tantos homofobicos desatados, Luz Clarita. Es mas dañino un homofobico rueda libre que una loca plumífera, yo que te lo digo.
Ciertamente, Coma!!! Ahora se quejan porque los "hackers" los quisieron sabotear... Insisto: quien tenga rabo de paja, que no se acerque a la candela... En cuanto a los colegas en cuestion, mala suerte... Pobrecitos!!! Saludos...
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, Danielito... Besos y saludos...
Me parece realmente fuera de lugar el que anden divulgando que si Pedro Luis es Gay o que se la pasa en bares gay, eso no es problema de NADIE!!! ... el es un ser humano el cual merece RESPETO, al igual que todos los seres humanos!
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El problema no es que se den un pajazo, pues quien no lo ha hecho?...el quid del asunto es que se graben, masturbarse, al igual que la mayoria de las actividade sexuales deberian pertenecer a la esfera de lo intimo y lo privado...
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hola! pero quien era esa pareja de francisco leon ? un hombre o una mujer? francisco leon es gay?
El caso es que ello no sabian que estaban siendo grabados, fueron traicionados para luego ser estafados. Que momentos tan difíciles deben estar pasando.Nuestra censura debe ir para estos estafadores de oficio.
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En éste y otros foros he visto a la gente rasgándose las vestiduras pero, eso sí: después de buscar, bajar y ver los videos...
Entonces, no entiendo: "me parece horrible, indignante, denigrante, impropio..." pero: "igual me los ví completicos"(?). No seamos falsos, el morbo vende, el morbo nos puede, el morbo es maravilloso y es una de las chispas que impulsa la vida. Cuántos no hubiesemos pagado por ver a cualquiera de estos cuatro personajes desnudos en una revista o un video... En los mismos foros está la prueba: el que no lo ha visto clama en mayúsculas (a gritos) por la dirección o el vínculo para gozarse a los muchachos.
No entiendo tampoco cuál es la pendejada con que si Pedro Luis Flores es "tremedo gay" o "rolo´e loca", o si va a la Cotorra o al ZZ... señores, si el hombre es gay, ¿cuál es el problema?, que yo sepa para lo único que se requiere ser un hombre heterosexual es para estar emparejado con una mujer, de resto no hay profesión, oficio, pasatiempo, arte o sentimiento que esté vedado a los homosexuales... Bueno, quizá miento, porque también se debería exigir ser bien heterosexual para ser homofóbico pues no hay nada más ridículo y patético que un gay denigrando de la homosexualidad de otro hombre... Algo así como lo que hace el Alcalde Mayor a cada rato... no se si me explico...
Otra cosa alucinante es la postura de quienes (como Andre) el hecho que se afirme que Pedro Luis Flores es Gay o frecuenta sitios de ambiente es un irrespeto que causa perjuicio... ¿Es que entonces ser homosexual es malo, hay que ocultarlo? ¿él puede ser gay pero que se mantenga en el closet? Si como dicen aquí mismo el periodista no oculta (ni hace ostentación de) su homosexualidad, a mi me parece maravilloso, bravo por él... Seguramente por ser homosexual (competitivos por excelencia como defensa ante la discriminación y la segregación) será tan buen profesional...
Y, además, su video, el de Pedro Luis, es el mejor de los 5 que andan rodando, me parece que -miren ustedes por donde- es el más masculino de todos, el de mejor cuerpo y el mejor dotado...
Y para terminar: Ese cuento de León de que sus videos (porque son 2, ojo) fueron generados dentro de una "relación a distancia" no convence, un/a novia/o no le hace esa perrada a un ex así hayan terminado muy mal, además, eso de que todos estos videos hayan salido al mismo tiempo y estén ofrecidos en Ares con nombres similares me hace pensar que se trata de alguien (un hombre, dejémonos de tonterías) que le montó un peine a estos muchachos, quizá en alguna de esas páginas donde la gente se contacta para cybersexo, ¿Será esto el tufillo que percibe Luz Clarita, que se trate de un complot? ¿o que ellos mismos los hayan puesto a circular?
*El problema, anónimo1, es que son figuras públicas y a esta palestra es que salió su "intimidad"...Eso fue...¡SALUDOS!
*Ni idea curioseando, ni idea. Con respecto a lo otro...¡a mí que me revisen!...¡SALUDOS!
*Feo feo la oriental. Encima de grabados...¡extorsionados!...¡Cuidadito con esas cámaritas, mira que con ella si se puede grabar!...¡SALUDOS!
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Y cual es el peo???????? cada quien hace con su vida lo que mejor le parezca... lo chimbo esta en que los videos hallan salido sin autorizacion de los panas... Cada quien experimenta con su sexualidad, ademas!! que hombre no se masturba?????????? al que no le guste el hecho que no lo vea... VIVAN Y DEJEN VIVIR!!!!
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*El problema es que fueron figuras públicas que vieron violentadas su intimidad por este lamentable casi...ese es el problema anónimo2
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Tengo un amigo de más de 50 años que lleva varios años en esto del sex cam (él me dice que es su vicio número 1) y el me dice que, por ese medio la gente es muy desconfiada y es raro que muestren el rostro cuando están desnudos y que incluso, la mayoría desenfoca la cámara, apaga las luces y hay los que se ponen gorra, lentes oscuros, etc....Mi amigo me cuenta lo más "FAMOSO" que ha conocido por este medio es un cronista de chismes, famoso por su mediocridad y lengua, muy femenino (¿Quién será?) y que nunca se mostró por CAM, sino que lo conoció en persona, porque este señor le dijo que era muy "FAMOSO" y que no podía mostrarse.....Así que esto debe mirarse con lupa.....
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